ID CARD COMPULSORY for Gov Family Benefits, Childcare Rebate

ANTI-BORG · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

"Kwyjibo." wrote in message $0$84428$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net...
> wrote in message
> $1@news.comindico.com.au
>> The card will be phased in between 2008 and 2010 and, while it will
>> not be compulsory, it will be essential for receiving Government
>> payments, meaning they will be essential for some (ie: FAMILIES).
>>
>> Contact your local MP, the PM, everybody that you can
>
> Why?

Off your meds or just plain stupid?

>> to stop this
>> CON.
>
> Con? What have you got to hide?

Anything I like... It's called FREEDOM. If I don't break the law then
I get to keep it too.
If you don't like freedom then f*** off to North Korea & take Howard &
his amoral cronies with you..

>> RESISTANCE IS *NOT* FUTILE.
>
> Piss off, dickhead.

You shouldn't type while staring into the mirror...

> --
> Kwyj

Archived from group: aus>education

Wolfgang Wildeblood · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Wayne wrote:

> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Wayne wrote:
>>
>>> horacewachope@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you ever seen the movie Wayne's World?
>>>> That's a case of art imitating this Wayne's life.
>>>> I usually don't believe in using killfiles, but this Wayne guy has no
>>>> redeeming qualities whatsoever.
>>>
>>> Hello Souxie.
>>
>> Hello newbie. Do you know Tia Carrera?
>
> Are you saying that just because Horace whats-his-face posts the same
> way as Souxie, he is not Souxie!
>
> Wow - what a revelation.

No, Wayne, I would not attempt to prove a negative like that. I am asking
if you know Tia Carrera? Do you have comprehension problems?

ant · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

ANTI-BORG@STAY.FREE.net wrote:
> The card will be phased in between 2008 and 2010 and, while it will
> not be compulsory, it will be essential for receiving Government
> payments, meaning they will be essential for some (ie: FAMILIES).

While the single childfree, who don't claim handouts, won't need it!

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ant
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ANTI-BORG · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

"ant" wrote in message @individual.net...
> ANTI-BORG@STAY.FREE.net wrote:
>> The card will be phased in between 2008 and 2010 and, while it will
>> not be compulsory, it will be essential for receiving Government
>> payments, meaning they will be essential for some (ie: FAMILIES).
>
> While the single childfree, who don't claim handouts, won't need it!

IE: ugly workaholics who can't get a root.
No wonder you don't care.

> --
> ant
> Vote in this year's Fugly Awards (better than the Logies!)
> http://www.fugly.com.au/awards/2006/

Have you entered?

ANTI-BORG · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

wrote in message @news.comindico.com.au...
> "ant" wrote in message
> @individual.net...
>> ANTI-BORG@STAY.FREE.net wrote:
>>> The card will be phased in between 2008 and 2010 and, while it
>>> will
>>> not be compulsory, it will be essential for receiving Government
>>> payments, meaning they will be essential for some (ie: FAMILIES).
>>
>> While the single childfree, who don't claim handouts, won't need
>> it!
>
> IE: ugly workaholics who can't get a root.
> No wonder you don't care.
(just kidding)

>> --
>> ant
>> Vote in this year's Fugly Awards (better than the Logies!)
>> http://www.fugly.com.au/awards/2006/
>
> Have you entered?
(just kidding)

ANTI-BORG · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

"%20" wrote in message $0$84426$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net...
>
> wrote in message
> $1@news.comindico.com.au...
>> The card will be phased in between 2008 and 2010 and, while it will
>> not be compulsory, it will be essential for receiving Government
>> payments, meaning they will be essential for some (ie: FAMILIES).
>
> It's about bloody time but can't they just include the information
> on our drivers licences?

But that would be less expensive & sensible... Which of john howards
family & fiends will get this huge contract???????????

ANTI-BORG · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

Copied from another users post:
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Look people, we have to wake up and repeal this bullshit:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/260406_b_Aussies.htm

Aussies to get pseudo-ID Card

The Register / Mark Ballard | April 26 2006

It looks like an ID Card. It smells like an ID Card. Heck, it even
spooks you like an ID Card. But, as Australia's carbon copy
Commonwealth Prime Minister says, "it ain't no ID card".

The "homeland security" strategy in Australia appears to be slowly,
slowly catchee monkey. Or rather, dupee monkey with platitudes, then
nab 'im with a surveillance net.

Having declared that ID cards would not be imposed on Australians,
Prime Minister John Howard announced a biometric "access card" in its
place. Australians will be denied access to health and social services
from 2010 unless they have one of these cards.

In avoiding calling the Aussie ID card an ID Card, Howard has been
able
to give the impression that he has "struck a balance" between state
security and personal privacy, by changing only his rhetoric.

Opponents are calling it an "ID Card by stealth" and there are many
more reasons why Howard's plan looks every bit like that of his UK
counterpart.

For a start, the compulsory nature of the card is being shrouded in
outrageous doublespeak.

"It will not be compulsory to have the card," the Australian
newspapers
quoted Howard saying today. But, "It will be necessary for everybody
who needs a card to apply for one."

Like Britain's card, which is optional for anyone who doesn't carry a
passport, the Aussie card is optional for anyone who doesn't get ill.

Again, like Britain's card, it will be biometric, but not too
biometric
at first. As in Britain, the limited biometrics are presented as a sop
to borderline civil libertarians. Don't worry, says Howard, the card's
chip will only hold your digital photograph, not your fingerprints.
They fail to mention how unreliable biometric technology is. They
couldn't get anything more sophisticated working in the jittery
timescale they want to do it all in.

The important thing for the authorities is once they've handed the
cards out and got the supporting infrastructure and databases in
place,
adding new biometrics will require only an upgrade.

Australia's biometric non-ID card will be used to replace 17 existing
health and social service cards. It will also be backed up by the
thing
that makes an ID card an ID card - a massive database, shared across
government departments.

It's almost being sold like an ID card. As it's not being called an ID
card anymore, it can't be sold to punters as a panacea for terrorism.
It's only being sold as a panacea for petty social ills. It will stop
fraud and benefits cheats, and no doubt eradicate inequality of wealth
and opportunity as well.
_______________________________________
How to Contact Federal Politicians.
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If you feel strongly about a federal civil liberties issue then you
should contact your local member of federal Parliament and your local
State senators and let them know your concerns.
This will help you identify how to contact federal parliamentarians.

How to contact your local federal member
-------------------------------------------
The House of Representatives is the lower house of the Parliament of
the Commonwealth of Australia.
The Prime Minister sits in the House of Representatives.

To find out who your local member visit the House of Representatives
website.
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-alpha.asp

If you don't know who your local member is, you can find out by
visiting the Australian Electoral Commission website
https://oevf.aec.gov.au/
Just fill in the details on the AEC page and it will tell you the name
of your federal electorate.

How to contact your state Senators
------------------------------------
The Senate is the upper house of the Parliament of the Commonwealth of
Australia.
The Senate is sometimes called the 'States House' or the 'House of
Review'.
Each State has 12 senators, and each Territory has 2 senators.
To find out who your State Senators are, visit the Senate website.
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/senators/index.htm

Wayne · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Wayne wrote:
>
>> horacewachope@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Have you ever seen the movie Wayne's World?
>>> That's a case of art imitating this Wayne's life.
>>> I usually don't believe in using killfiles, but this Wayne guy has no
>>> redeeming qualities whatsoever.
>>
>>
>> Hello Souxie.
>
>
> Hello newbie. Do you know Tia Carrera?

Are you saying that just because Horace whats-his-face posts the same
way as Souxie, he is not Souxie!

Wow - what a revelation.

rhinestoneau · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

>Governments are very good at targetting people
>who are in no position to fight back.

Well duh. That's why we were all born with a pair of fists. If
evolution thought that fists weren't required in the human race, we
wouldn't have those knuckle joints. Our hands would be webbed much like
a frog.

user · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

wrote in message $1@news.comindico.com.au...
> The card will be phased in between 2008 and 2010 and, while it will not be
> compulsory, it will be essential for receiving Government payments,
> meaning they will be essential for some (ie: FAMILIES).

It's about bloody time but can't they just include the information on our
drivers licences?

oh boy · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

"Wayne" wrote in message $0$30711$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> oh boy wrote:
>> "Wayne" wrote in message
>> $0$30730$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>>ANTI-BORG@STAY.FREE.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>The card will be phased in between 2008 and 2010 and, while it will not
>>>>be compulsory, it will be essential for receiving Government payments,
>>>>meaning they will be essential for some (ie: FAMILIES).
>>>>
>>>>Contact your local MP, the PM, everybody that you can to stop this CON.
>>>>
>>>>RESISTANCE IS *NOT* FUTILE.
>>>>
>>>>Comments:
>>>
>>>You are an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why? I'm sorry you Howardites class thinking for ones self as a bad
>> thing.
>
> Put the weed done, and abstain for a week, then post - then you might have
> some credibility.

I believe you should put the weed DOWN, you can't spell four letter words

oh boy · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

>>
>> Shame you missed it. Try learning to read.
>
> I read quite well. Perhaps you could point out the negative aspects of
> such a card?
>
>> (must be a rabbid howard supporter...)
>>
>
> Wrong again.
> Not very good at this stuff, are you?
>
> --
> Kwyj

Beside the fact Howard said MANY years ago this type of card would never
happen if he was PM ?
>
>

Chris McDonald · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

"oh boy" writes:

>Beside the fact Howard said MANY years ago this type of card would never
>happen if he was PM ?

He said it would NEVER, EVER, happen - how much of a hint do you need?

--
Chris.

Wayne · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Wayne wrote:
>
>> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>> horacewachope@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever seen the movie Wayne's World?
>>>>> That's a case of art imitating this Wayne's life.
>>>>> I usually don't believe in using killfiles, but this Wayne guy has no
>>>>> redeeming qualities whatsoever.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Souxie.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello newbie. Do you know Tia Carrera?
>>
>>
>> Are you saying that just because Horace whats-his-face posts the same
>> way as Souxie, he is not Souxie!
>>
>> Wow - what a revelation.
>
>
> No, Wayne, I would not attempt to prove a negative like that. I am
> asking if you know Tia Carrera? Do you have comprehension problems?

Nope. I just fail to see the relevance of me sharing the same first
name as that of a fictional character of some obscure movie.

Reaper · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

wrote in message @j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >opportunistic
> fraudsters
>
> It depends on what you consider an "opportunistic fraudster". Yes its
> easy to catch them.

I'm refering to the lower order more unsophistocated dork who does it
because the opportunity presented itself.

>But what about political dissidents? What happens
> if our country is taken over by a tyrannt? It will make it easy for her
> to locate and remove the resistance - this is the bas eof were
> opposition to the card is coming from. Its not so much the state of
> reality in the present, such as the benefits given by its proponents of
> the present. Its the future that worries us. The whole national ID card
> was covered in Orwellian society.

You surely can't be serious can you?

Reaper