America's call

Peter · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

In article , Gregory
Shearman wrote:

> >> The US exchanged one dictator with another.
> >
> >**Not yet.
>
> So, is a military governor a democracy?

Do you expect them to just hold elections? Hence when he said not yet.
There's a lot of work to do before an election can be held.

When the UN holds elections I give it 5 years before a dictator is in
place again.

>
> >> Hmmmm... is that AFTER they get their jobs, electricity, water
> >> and lives back? the USA destroyed it all
> >
> >**No, they did not. The US destroyed SOME of it. The US has also rebuilt
> >some of it.
>
> Paying for it with Iraqi money...

agree here. Unfortunately someone has to pay for it.

> How many kiddies were wiped out by UN sanctions forced on Iraq
> by the USA? Half a million? How many did Saddam kill?

Forced on Iraq? You think Sadam shouldn't have been sanctioned for
invading another country???

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Gregory Shearman · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:04:14 GMT, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>> >> The US exchanged one dictator with another.
>> >
>> >**Not yet.
>>
>> So, is a military governor a democracy?
>
>**Sure it is. Like Japan, nearly 60 years ago, the US set up a military
>governor, then put in place a democratic system of government. Japan seems
>to have survived the US invasion quite nicely. Iraq will too.

We'll just forget about the hundreds of thousands killed by
weapons of mass destruction.... and the ensuing gene damage to
the population... I'm sure THEY all "did fine" too....

How trite.

>> >**No, they did not. The US destroyed SOME of it. The US has also rebuilt
>> >some of it.
>>
>> Paying for it with Iraqi money...
>
>**Of course. With some 25% of the planet's oil, they can easily afford it.

Can they?

It seems as if the vandals get away with destroying the country
eh? Can't allow them to get ahead now can we... we'll just
destroy the country and use their own resources to rebuild the
country back to what it was before the USA started meddling in
their affairs... and when they start to get ahead we'll hammer
them again, right? Eventually the oil will be all gone and then
they won't be able to threaten anyone, right?

>> >**Yep. And a whole lot fewer of them are being tortured and murdered by
>> >Saddam. It could be argued that far fewer Iraqis are now being killed by
>> >Americans than would have been killed by Saddam.
>>
>> You COULD argue it, but I think you'd be wrong. Iraqis are now
>> being killed and tortured by the US military.
>
>**How many are being tortured and killed?
>
> How many did
>> Saddam torture and kill in the last few years?
>
>**Maybe 500,000. Hard to say. I suspect record-keeping was not top of the
>list of important things to do.

"hard to say"... yet you say it... without evidence... sounds
like Bush/Blair and their imaginary weapons of mass destruction.

>> How many kiddies were wiped out by UN sanctions forced on Iraq
>> by the USA? Half a million? How many did Saddam kill?
>
>**Saddam could have put a stop to the deaths of his own citizens by the
>simple expedient of allowing weapons inspectors into Iraq. AS part of his
>surrender, he agreed to this. He reneged on that decision.

The weapons inspectors were there from 1991 to 1998... then came
5 years of nearly daily bombings by the USA and their
arselickers.

Do you enjoy rewriting history?

"Oh Saddam only had to show where the imaginary weapons of mass
destruction were hidden, to stop the USA from killing thousands
and destroying the country"...

All up to Saddam, eh?

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Regards,

Gregory.

"Ding-a-Ding Dang, My Dang-a-Long Ling Long."

Gregory Shearman · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:24:29 +1000, Peter wrote:
>In article , Gregory
>Shearman wrote:
>
>> >> The US exchanged one dictator with another.
>> >
>> >**Not yet.
>>
>> So, is a military governor a democracy?
>
>Do you expect them to just hold elections? Hence when he said not yet.

They held an election at the start of the year.

>There's a lot of work to do before an election can be held.

Yep. Lots of oil to steal, eh?

>When the UN holds elections I give it 5 years before a dictator is in
>place again.

So, all the thousands dead were for nothing.... good one USA.

>>
>> Paying for it with Iraqi money...
>
>agree here. Unfortunately someone has to pay for it.

Let the vandals who destroyed the country pay for their
destruction.

>> How many kiddies were wiped out by UN sanctions forced on Iraq
>> by the USA? Half a million? How many did Saddam kill?
>
>Forced on Iraq? You think Sadam shouldn't have been sanctioned for
>invading another country???

Do you think half a million dead Iraqi children was "worth it"?

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Regards,

Gregory.

"Ding-a-Ding Dang, My Dang-a-Long Ling Long."

heleneg · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

save the wales
"Gregory Shearman" wrote in message$d6.101996@nasal.pacific.net.au...
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:31:18 GMT, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >
> >"Abu-Alwafa" wrote in message
> >$f7.95218@localhost...
> >> In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
> >>
> >> Annan throws doubt on international help in Iraq
> >>
> >> America's call
> >>
> >> The UN position even now is that the Anglo-American invasion and
> >occupation
> >> of Iraq was, and is, illegal.
> >> Therefore, Iraq is a US, and not UN, venture and any UN action in
support
> >of
> >> the occupation would violate its own stance and Charter
> >>
> >> http://www.uscrusade.com/
> >>
> >
> >**Tell me, Mr Troll: Would it be better that Saddam still be in power, so
he
> >could continue to murder thousands of Muslims, inside and outside Iraq?
>
> Please explain the difference between the USA murdering
> thousands of "muslims" and Saddam murdering them.... I can't
> think of a difference.... except that the country would not have
> been destroyed in the process.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Gregory.
>
> "Ding-a-Ding Dang, My Dang-a-Long Ling Long."