Questions salary between elementary, secondary and high scho

ni.ni111 · Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 18

About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.

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racqueteer · Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 7

Salary is based on years of service in combination with personal
education (you get a bump for a Masters, for credits beyond a Bachelors,
etc). Otoh, there are often "adjustments" that can be made in your
starting level/step if you are in an area they need - physics is a good
example of this. Once in, however, your raises are the same as anyone
else's from one year to the next. So a new physics teacher might come in
on step/year four rather than on step/year one, resulting in a $4000-5000
difference in starting salary.

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:12:03 -0800, ni.ni111 wrote:

> About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
> that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
> teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
> elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.

ni.ni111 · Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 18

On Feb 11, 9:47 am, "M. Kilgore" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> @c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
> > that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
> > teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
> > elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.
>
> You waited two years to start wondering?

I wasn't getting into teraching until now and so it wasn't important
to me.

ni.ni111 · Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 18

On Feb 11, 9:57 am, racqueteer wrote:
> Salary is based on years of service in combination with personal
> education (you get a bump for a Masters, for credits beyond a Bachelors,
> etc).

You did nto understand my question. My question was whether there is a
pay difference between teaching elementary versus middle school,
provided that everything else is the same. For example, do I get pay
more if I teach Chemistry in highschool versus math in middle school?

>Otoh, there are often "adjustments" that can be made in your
> starting level/step if you are in an area they need - physics is a good
> example of this. Once in, however, your raises are the same as anyone
> else's from one year to the next. So a new physics teacher might come in
> on step/year four rather than on step/year one, resulting in a $4000-5000
> difference in starting salary.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:12:03 -0800, ni.ni111 wrote:
> > About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
> > that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
> > teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
> > elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

pieringl · Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 4

On Feb 11, 12:12 pm, ni.ni...@yahoo.com wrote:
> About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
> that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
> teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
> elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.

In my district, salary is based on longevity and level of education.
I've never heard of being paid based on the subject and grade one
teaches...

Rowley · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 499

Here in Texas the salaries are based on years of service - but there are
positions that get extra pay in the form of stipends (band director,
football coach.... for example)

2006-2007 School Year
State Minimum Salary Schedule for Classroom Teachers, Full-Time
Librarians, Full-Time Counselors, and Full-Time Nurses (Section
21.402(c), Texas Education Code)
http://www.tea.state.tx.us/school.finance/salary/sal07exp.html

Martin

ni.ni111@yahoo.com wrote:
> About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
> that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
> teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
> elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.

ni.ni111 · Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 18

On Feb 11, 3:39 pm, pieri...@bangorschools.org wrote:
> On Feb 11, 12:12 pm, ni.ni...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
> > that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
> > teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
> > elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.
>
> In my district, salary is based on longevity and level of education.
> I've never heard of being paid based on the subject and grade one
> teaches...

Thw, he was right, I guess except that earlier, I saw an ad where it
said this much for elementaryand that much for middle school as
starting salary.

If the grade one teaches is impertinent, I wonder whether it'd be
easier to handle 5th graders than 11th graders and if so, I'd rather
teach Math than Chemistry. But then, with Chemistry, I'd probably have
more choices to pick the school later on.

BTW, once I do this paid internship while getting credential with
pipeline project - their ad said two/three years contract, I just find
a job with a school directly?

I am anitcipating what a friend of mine went through when she was
getting crednetial. She was assigned in low income neighborhood and
was contactly depressed about her students just staring at her when
she teaches.

I like kids but the kids in this country in general are not likable
with their disrespectful behavior. If they just stare at me when I
teach, that's okay. I'd let them Smile

. I mean, I'll try my best to make
them learn w/o killing myself.

toto · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 2069

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:37:26 -0800 (PST), ni.ni111@yahoo.com wrote:

>You did nto understand my question. My question was whether there is a
>pay difference between teaching elementary versus middle school,
>provided that everything else is the same. For example, do I get pay
>more if I teach Chemistry in highschool versus math in middle school?

This probably depends on your local school district.

In Evanston, IL, there was a difference in pay because there were two
districts. District 202 was the high school district and District 65
was the elementary and middle school district.

It appears that the starting salaries for K-8 teachers in Evanston is
about $4500 lower than the starting salary for HS teachers there.

--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

toto · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 2069

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:39:44 -0800 (PST), pieringl@bangorschools.org
wrote:

>On Feb 11, 12:12 pm, ni.ni...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> About two years ago, this guys teaching English in sixth grade told me
>> that h salary for teachers are not based on which grade or subject you
>> teach. is that right? I just saw salary rate based on whether it's
>> elementary or middle school. I think he was giving me bs.
>
>In my district, salary is based on longevity and level of education.
>I've never heard of being paid based on the subject and grade one
>teaches..

In unified districts, it may be less common, but elementary teachers
were paid less than high school teachers in Evanston, IL. That may
have been because there were two separate districts though. It
appears to be true in Skokie, IL and other north suburbs of Chicago as
well from this site which gives beginning teacher salaries.

I have not heard of anyone being paid more for specific subjects
though there are sometimes signing bonuses for teachers in fields
where there are fewer teachers available, I think. Zion, for example
pays beginning elementary teachers with bachelors degrees $27,181
and beginning high school teachers with bachelors degrees $33,602.

http://careercenter.depaul.edu/alumni/explore/edu_salary_beginning.aspx

--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

toto · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 2069

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:09:12 -0600, Rowley
wrote:

>2006-2007 School Year
>State Minimum Salary Schedule for Classroom Teachers, Full-Time
>Librarians, Full-Time Counselors, and Full-Time Nurses (Section
>21.402(c), Texas Education Code)
>http://www.tea.state.tx.us/school.finance/salary/sal07exp.html
>
>Martin

Hey, Martin, did you notice that the website specifically states that
this is for a ten-month contract?

--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

Rowley · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 499

Yeah, noticed it mentioned 187 days.....

Martin

toto wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:09:12 -0600, Rowley
> wrote:
>
>
>>2006-2007 School Year
>>State Minimum Salary Schedule for Classroom Teachers, Full-Time
>>Librarians, Full-Time Counselors, and Full-Time Nurses (Section
>>21.402(c), Texas Education Code)
>>http://www.tea.state.tx.us/school.finance/salary/sal07exp.html
>>
>>Martin
>
>
> Hey, Martin, did you notice that the website specifically states that
> this is for a ten-month contract?
>
>

Juan M · Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 5

"toto" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:37:26 -0800 (PST), ni.ni111@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>You did nto understand my question. My question was whether there is a
>>pay difference between teaching elementary versus middle school,
>>provided that everything else is the same. For example, do I get pay
>>more if I teach Chemistry in highschool versus math in middle school?
>
> This probably depends on your local school district.
>
> In Evanston, IL, there was a difference in pay because there were two
> districts. District 202 was the high school district and District 65
> was the elementary and middle school district.
>
> It appears that the starting salaries for K-8 teachers in Evanston is
> about $4500 lower than the starting salary for HS teachers there.
>
>
> --
> Dorothy
>
> There is no sound, no cry in all the world
> that can be heard unless someone listens ..
>
> The Outer Limits

Years ago some astute observer commented,
"Public esteem for educators is in direct proportion to the height of their
students."

This may be true as far as the public is concerned, but as a career teacher
in K-8 and a graduate school education professor, I will state that the
finest teacher candidates I have ever observed are kindergarten teachers.

racqueteer · Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 7

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:37:26 -0800, ni.ni111 wrote:

> On Feb 11, 9:57 am, racqueteer wrote:
>> Salary is based on years of service in combination with personal
>> education (you get a bump for a Masters, for credits beyond a
>> Bachelors, etc).
>
>
> You did nto understand my question. My question was whether there is a
> pay difference between teaching elementary versus middle school,
> provided that everything else is the same. For example, do I get pay
> more if I teach Chemistry in highschool versus math in middle school?

I understood perfectly. The pay scale is for the DISTRICT, not the
school. All things being equal, you get the same pay since it depends on
years of service, credits, and degrees (the "all things being equal").

ni.ni111 · Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 18

On Feb 12, 7:49 am, racqueteer wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:37:26 -0800, ni.ni111 wrote:
> > On Feb 11, 9:57 am, racqueteer wrote:
> >> Salary is based on years of service in combination with personal
> >> education (you get a bump for a Masters, for credits beyond a
> >> Bachelors, etc).
>
> > You did nto understand my question. My question was whether there is a
> > pay difference between teaching elementary versus middle school,
> > provided that everything else is the same. For example, do I get pay
> > more if I teach Chemistry in highschool versus math in middle school?
>
> I understood perfectly. The pay scale is for the DISTRICT, not the
> school. All things being equal, you get the same pay since it depends on
> years of service, credits, and degrees (the "all things being equal").

Does having a second master's degree have a higher increase in the
salaray than with one master's degree? I'd assume so. In fact, the
salary is stated based on upper unit and graduate units which i have
plenty since I had to take some upper level classes in Computer
porgramming before I started my Master's in Computer Information
Systems.

Well, it seems like I will be starting the process to get credential
in June since I 'll have to get heat preservice units in the summer
before joining credential programs in August. The projet pipeline is
organizing a job fair in late June where recruiters form different
schools will be there. I guess I should do some reasecrh about these
schools. What are the things I should be searching about these
schools? There are a couple of high schools really close to where I
am living. I wonder what are my chances to get into those schools.

racqueteer · Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 7

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:15:33 -0800, ni.ni111 wrote:

> On Feb 12, 7:49 am, racqueteer wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:37:26 -0800, ni.ni111 wrote:
>> > On Feb 11, 9:57 am, racqueteer wrote:
>> >> Salary is based on years of service in combination with personal
>> >> education (you get a bump for a Masters, for credits beyond a
>> >> Bachelors, etc).
>>
>> > You did nto understand my question. My question was whether there is
>> > a pay difference between teaching elementary versus middle school,
>> > provided that everything else is the same. For example, do I get pay
>> > more if I teach Chemistry in highschool versus math in middle school?
>>
>> I understood perfectly. The pay scale is for the DISTRICT, not the
>> school. All things being equal, you get the same pay since it depends
>> on years of service, credits, and degrees (the "all things being
>> equal").
>
> Does having a second master's degree have a higher increase in the
> salaray than with one master's degree? I'd assume so. In fact, the
> salary is stated based on upper unit and graduate units which i have
> plenty since I had to take some upper level classes in Computer
> porgramming before I started my Master's in Computer Information
> Systems.

Typically, you get a bonus for a Masters and in some cases a PhD. Two
Masters won't add to the bonus, but the additional hours beyond the first
Masters count extra (as long as they are at graduate level). My last
district was Masters plus up to 100 hours of credits beyond the Masters -
This counts inservice, college credits, etc.

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