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Lady Linda
Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: Handwriting for Kids |
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Just a short notes for homeschoolers and teachers looking for
handwriting materials for their kids. You can find Manuscript and
Cursive at:
Handwriting for Kids
www.handwritingforkids.com/handwrite/
Please email me for other suggestions or ideas you would like to see.
Thanks!
Linda
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Rowley
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 499
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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Hmmm... didn't someone claim that cursive was a bad thing?
Martin
Lady Linda wrote:
> Just a short notes for homeschoolers and teachers looking for
> handwriting materials for their kids. You can find Manuscript and
> Cursive at:
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> Handwriting for Kids
> www.handwritingforkids.com/handwrite/
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> Please email me for other suggestions or ideas you would like to see.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Linda |
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stevericks
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 141
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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It seemed a few years back I read a debate about cursive. Very few people
write in cursive anymore. Most print.
Anyone care to enlighten me on the arguments for and against? I noticed
Rowley also posted this question.
Hey, we could make it sexual discrimination. I bet every guy who is reading
this remembers the horrible cursive handwriting they had in elementary
school. Then there were the girls-that pretty neat writing, just like the
letters posted over the blackboard. It is sexual discrimination against us
guys, it is!
Steve
"Lady Linda" wrote in message @e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Just a short notes for homeschoolers and teachers looking for
> handwriting materials for their kids. You can find Manuscript and
> Cursive at:
>
> Handwriting for Kids
> www.handwritingforkids.com/handwrite/
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> Please email me for other suggestions or ideas you would like to see.
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> Thanks!
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> Linda |
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Lee
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 625
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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stevericks said:
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>It seemed a few years back I read a debate about cursive. Very few people
>write in cursive anymore. Most print.
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>Anyone care to enlighten me on the arguments for and against? I noticed
>Rowley also posted this question.
>
>Hey, we could make it sexual discrimination. I bet every guy who is reading
>this remembers the horrible cursive handwriting they had in elementary
>school. Then there were the girls-that pretty neat writing, just like the
>letters posted over the blackboard. It is sexual discrimination against us
>guys, it is!
In the debate in this newsgroup a few weeks ago, I pointed
out that research says that cursive ("modified", not the
flowery, girly stuff) is faster and more ergonomic than
printing. On the downside, it's harder for other people
(and machines) to read, so its best application is in
situations that require rapid note-taking for personal use,
such as lectures. I was arguing that a teacher who forbids
cursive is doing a disservice to the college-bound.
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Lady Linda
Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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On Jan 25, 10:03 am, Lee wrote:
> stevericks said:
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> >It seemed a few years back I read a debate about cursive. Very few people
> >write in cursive anymore. Most print.
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> >Anyone care to enlighten me on the arguments for and against? I noticed
> >Rowley also posted this question.
>
> >Hey, we could make it sexual discrimination. I bet every guy who is reading
> >this remembers the horrible cursivehandwritingthey had in elementary
> >school. Then there were the girls-that pretty neat writing, just like the
> >letters posted over the blackboard. It is sexual discrimination against us
> >guys, it is!
>
> In the debate in this newsgroup a few weeks ago, I pointed
> out that research says that cursive ("modified", not the
> flowery, girly stuff) is faster and more ergonomic than
> printing. On the downside, it's harder for other people
> (and machines) to read, so its best application is in
> situations that require rapid note-taking for personal use,
> such as lectures. I was arguing that a teacher who forbids
> cursive is doing a disservice to the college-bound.
>
> --
Here's some interesting articles to read more about handwriting:
Boy, 9, Wins State Handwriting Competition
Penmanship: A Dying Art?
You'll also find more good resources at my site regarding reading,
writing, math, etc.
Linda |
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stevericks
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 141
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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Linda,
Thanks for the posts. Still, they really didn't get at why cursive is so
important. I understand that some people say it is faster for notetaking.
If that is the main argument for it, then why don't we teach shorthand
instead of cursive? It would accomplish the time task much better.
In college I do remember slopping notes down in cursive for time sake (no, I
never learned short hand). Then I would go back and rewrite them using
printing (so I could read what I had written).
Of course, it I had been taught better notetaking skills, I would have
likely not needed to try and write down every word uttered by the professor.
Which reminds me. Ever heard the difference between a graduate student and
a freshman in a college class? The professor walks in and smiles at the
freshman. The freshman smiles back. The professor walks in and smiles at a
graduate student. The graduate student writes it down.
Guess I was looking to see if there was much of a movement out there to
de-emphasize cursive.
Steve
"Lady Linda" wrote in message @q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 25, 10:03 am, Lee wrote:
> stevericks said:
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> >It seemed a few years back I read a debate about cursive. Very few people
> >write in cursive anymore. Most print.
>
> >Anyone care to enlighten me on the arguments for and against? I noticed
> >Rowley also posted this question.
>
> >Hey, we could make it sexual discrimination. I bet every guy who is
> >reading
> >this remembers the horrible cursivehandwritingthey had in elementary
> >school. Then there were the girls-that pretty neat writing, just like the
> >letters posted over the blackboard. It is sexual discrimination against
> >us
> >guys, it is!
>
> In the debate in this newsgroup a few weeks ago, I pointed
> out that research says that cursive ("modified", not the
> flowery, girly stuff) is faster and more ergonomic than
> printing. On the downside, it's harder for other people
> (and machines) to read, so its best application is in
> situations that require rapid note-taking for personal use,
> such as lectures. I was arguing that a teacher who forbids
> cursive is doing a disservice to the college-bound.
>
> --
Here's some interesting articles to read more about handwriting:
Boy, 9, Wins State Handwriting Competition
Penmanship: A Dying Art?
You'll also find more good resources at my site regarding reading,
writing, math, etc.
Linda |
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sf
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 183
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:33:36 -0600, "SumBuny"
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> I'll bite--why are pens preferable over pencils?
Less "drag", they are smoother (easier) to write with.
>I am guessing the
>"smudge" factor has something to do with it, especially with those of the
>left-handed persuasion who do not write "underhanded"...
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SumBuny
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 162
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:33:36 -0600, "SumBuny"
> wrote:
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>> I'll bite--why are pens preferable over pencils?
>
> Less "drag", they are smoother (easier) to write with.
Do some pens work better than others...gels better than inks? I know that
my southpaw son hates gels, because they smear...
>
>>I am guessing the
>>"smudge" factor has something to do with it, especially with those of the
>>left-handed persuasion who do not write "underhanded"...
--
Buny
--Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be
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stevericks
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 141
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Handwriting for Kids |
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Yes, I certainly understand about resistance and pens. I tend to write
fast -scribble fast is probably a better term. It drives me crazy when the
pen doesn't seem to keep up with my motor movements. When I am having to be
creative etc., a slow flowing pen is horrible. You end up thinking about
the pen and muscle coordination instead of the thought you are trying to
write. It really amazes me how much it can interfere with the creative
writing process.
I have been very picky about pens over the years. Of course, there is the
need to balance cost too. I had found a Pentel Gizmo pen was perfect for
me. Fast flowing, nice fit in hand, easy to control. I pulled the last one
out of the box a month ago and asked the secretary to order some more. She
discovers they are no longer made.
We spent about 2 hours trying to find something comparable. The closest was
a Pentel Clarius. They arrived yesterday. The ink flows almost as well, it
has the rubber grip, but seems a little too big in diameter-not as well
balanced (and costs about 2x more). Why can't manufacturers leave well
enough alone?
Steve
"Lady Linda" wrote in message @e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Just a short notes for homeschoolers and teachers looking for
> handwriting materials for their kids. You can find Manuscript and
> Cursive at:
>
> Handwriting for Kids
> www.handwritingforkids.com/handwrite/
>
> Please email me for other suggestions or ideas you would like to see.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Linda
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