Howard Minister pressures uni to abandon free speech and ac

911falseflag · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

fasgnadh wrote:
> "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
>
> - ABC 30/9/2006
>
> The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
> on Free speech and balance, as his Minister
> tries to impose tory PC in place of Academic freedom!
>
> "Macquarie University has affirmed its commitment to
> academic freedom, after receiving a letter about course
> material from the former education minister and now
> Defence Minister, Brendan Nelson."
>
> Poor bastards, the Ministry of Truth will now find
> some one to financially punish them.. using some other
> pretext of course, but it will be clear to all why
> they have been punished - for disobeying their political
> Masters.
>
> "A spokesman for Dr Nelson says he was acting on behalf
> of a concerned student when he wrote to the university
> asking for the inclusion of more conservative material
> on the reading list for a history subject."
>
> This is the worst kind of political interference,
> pressure to choose material because it supports a
> particular partisan political perspective, rather
> than on Academic merit alone!
>
> "The letter urges the vice-chancellor to give the matter
> his personal attention."
>
> How often dose the minister lend his personal
> attention to placing political pressure on the University
> to accept politicians imposing a Politically Correct
> ideology.. only on behalf of the conservative factions?
>
> "A spokesman for Macquarie University says it is preparing
> a response to the Minister and is also preparing an enhanced
> policy on academic freedom."
>
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> "A US intelligence report has found the Iraq war gave birth to a new
> generation of Islamic radicals and the terrorist threat had grown"
>
>
> "A national intelligence estimate in April said Islamic radicalism
> had mushroomed worldwide and the Iraqi War was one reason"
> - AFP Reuters 25/9/2006
>
>
> "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
> and fight to defend our rights and liberties." - Eureka Oath
>
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Howard wants a dust-up?

O.k.

If we don't fight they will keep doing this.

Our democracy is not enough. Voting once every 3-4 years is clearly
insufficient in a world where communications are so connected, where
issues are so imminent.

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tropicus · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

fasgnadh wrote:
> "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
>
> - ABC 30/9/2006
>
> The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
> on Free speech and balance

Says the clown who supports racial vilification laws.

911falseflag · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

tropicus@gmail.com wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
> > "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
> >
> > - ABC 30/9/2006
> >
> > The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
> > on Free speech and balance
>
> Says the clown who supports racial vilification laws.

He'sreproaching an isloated example. Your post suggests you're looking
for a leader.

I thought you already had your leader Tropi? Olmert? Sharon? GIYUS.ORG?

tropicus · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

911falseflag@gmail.com wrote:
> tropicus@gmail.com wrote:
> > fasgnadh wrote:
> > > "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
> > >
> > > - ABC 30/9/2006
> > >
> > > The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
> > > on Free speech and balance
> >
> > Says the clown who supports racial vilification laws.
>
> He'sreproaching an isloated example. Your post suggests you're looking
> for a leader.

Wow, what a superb grasp of complete incoherence you have

>
> I thought you already had your leader Tropi? Olmert? Sharon? GIYUS.ORG?

Nurse.......

tropicus · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

fasgnadh wrote:
> tropicus@gmail.com wrote:
> > fasgnadh wrote:
> >>
> >> "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
> >>
> >> - ABC 30/9/2006
> >>
> >> The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
> >> on Free speech and balance, as his Minister
> >> tries to impose tory PC in place of Academic freedom!
> >>
> >> "Macquarie University has affirmed its commitment to
> >> academic freedom, after receiving a letter about course
> >> material from the former education minister and now
> >> Defence Minister, Brendan Nelson."
> >>
> >> Poor bastards, the Ministry of Truth will now find
> >> some one to financially punish them.. using some other
> >> pretext of course, but it will be clear to all why
> >> they have been punished - for disobeying their political
> >> Masters.
> >>
> >> "A spokesman for Dr Nelson says he was acting on behalf
> >> of a concerned student when he wrote to the university
> >> asking for the inclusion of more conservative material
> >> on the reading list for a history subject."
> >>
> >> This is the worst kind of political interference,
> >> pressure to choose material because it supports a
> >> particular partisan political perspective, rather
> >> than on Academic merit alone!
> >>
> >> "The letter urges the vice-chancellor to give the matter
> >> his personal attention."
> >>
> >> How often dose the minister lend his personal
> >> attention to placing political pressure on the University
> >> to accept politicians imposing a Politically Correct
> >> ideology.. only on behalf of the conservative factions?
> >>
> >> "A spokesman for Macquarie University says it is preparing
> >> a response to the Minister and is also preparing an enhanced
> >> policy on academic freedom."
> >>
> >
> > Says the clown who supports racial vilification laws.
>
>
> Lets see.
>
>
> Anti-defamation and anti-racist vilification laws
> stop ALL liars and racists from lying, defaming or
> vilifying people because of their skin colour!

So, the Victorian "catch a fire ministries" case you so vocally
supported was about "skin colour" was it? Seemed to be about people
quoting the koran.

So, what other areas of discussion should be banned, hypocrite?

>
> The community CREATES the laws it finds necessary and
> if the community doesn't like them, then it can change them.

It can vote the Howard government out too. You can't have it both ways,
you nanny-state hypocrite.

> However
>
> Political interference in free speech by the State pitches
> the power of the State against the less powerful citizen victims.

Just like racial vilification laws, where the citizen victims are
punished by the power of the state simply by speaking their mind. Of
course, you are just fine with this providing you don't like the
speech. You hypocrite.

>
> It's not a matter of law, something created by our democratic
> parliament and reviewed by our judiciary, it's just one overbearing
> Nazi smashing it's boot into the face of freedom.

If the government is legally allowed to do it, then it's legal. They
were elected to the parliament by the community.

Of course, your idea of "freedom" doesn't extend to people saying
things you don't like. Hypocrite.

>
> Naturally a neo-fascist shitpig such as troppo can't tell
> the difference, he simply resents any lawful restraint
> on his racist hate-speech.

LOL. Still waiting for you to actually find some examples of my "racist
hate speech".

....and it's always amusing to be lectured on "neo-fascism" by a
hypocrite who thinks speech he doesn't like should be banned...

911falseflag · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

fasgnadh wrote:
> tropicus@gmail.com wrote:
> > fasgnadh wrote:
> >>
> >> "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
> >>
> >> - ABC 30/9/2006
> >>
> >> The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
> >> on Free speech and balance, as his Minister
> >> tries to impose tory PC in place of Academic freedom!
> >>
> >> "Macquarie University has affirmed its commitment to
> >> academic freedom, after receiving a letter about course
> >> material from the former education minister and now
> >> Defence Minister, Brendan Nelson."
> >>
> >> Poor bastards, the Ministry of Truth will now find
> >> some one to financially punish them.. using some other
> >> pretext of course, but it will be clear to all why
> >> they have been punished - for disobeying their political
> >> Masters.
> >>
> >> "A spokesman for Dr Nelson says he was acting on behalf
> >> of a concerned student when he wrote to the university
> >> asking for the inclusion of more conservative material
> >> on the reading list for a history subject."
> >>
> >> This is the worst kind of political interference,
> >> pressure to choose material because it supports a
> >> particular partisan political perspective, rather
> >> than on Academic merit alone!
> >>
> >> "The letter urges the vice-chancellor to give the matter
> >> his personal attention."
> >>
> >> How often dose the minister lend his personal
> >> attention to placing political pressure on the University
> >> to accept politicians imposing a Politically Correct
> >> ideology.. only on behalf of the conservative factions?
> >>
> >> "A spokesman for Macquarie University says it is preparing
> >> a response to the Minister and is also preparing an enhanced
> >> policy on academic freedom."
> >>
> >
> > Says the clown who supports racial vilification laws.
>
>
> Lets see.
>
>
> Anti-defamation and anti-racist vilification laws
> stop ALL liars and racists from lying, defaming or
> vilifying people because of their skin colour!
>
> The community CREATES the laws it finds necessary and
> if the community doesn't like them, then it can change them.
>
> However
>
> Political interference in free speech by the State pitches
> the power of the State against the less powerful citizen victims.
>
> It's not a matter of law, something created by our democratic
> parliament and reviewed by our judiciary, it's just one overbearing
> Nazi smashing it's boot into the face of freedom.
>
> Naturally a neo-fascist shitpig such as troppo can't tell
> the difference, he simply resents any lawful restraint
> on his racist hate-speech.
>
>
>
> --
>
> ------------
>
> "A US intelligence report has found the Iraq war gave birth to a new
> generation of Islamic radicals and the terrorist threat had grown"
>
>
> "A national intelligence estimate in April said Islamic radicalism
> had mushroomed worldwide and the Iraqi War was one reason"
> - AFP Reuters 25/9/2006
>
>
> "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
> and fight to defend our rights and liberties." - Eureka Oath
>
> ------------
>
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>
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>
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this website exposes people like Tropi very clearly:
www.iamthewitness.com

fasgnadh · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

"Minister pressures uni over history reading list"

- ABC 30/9/2006

The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
on Free speech and balance, as his Minister
tries to impose tory PC in place of Academic freedom!

"Macquarie University has affirmed its commitment to
academic freedom, after receiving a letter about course
material from the former education minister and now
Defence Minister, Brendan Nelson."

Poor bastards, the Ministry of Truth will now find
some one to financially punish them.. using some other
pretext of course, but it will be clear to all why
they have been punished - for disobeying their political
Masters.

"A spokesman for Dr Nelson says he was acting on behalf
of a concerned student when he wrote to the university
asking for the inclusion of more conservative material
on the reading list for a history subject."

This is the worst kind of political interference,
pressure to choose material because it supports a
particular partisan political perspective, rather
than on Academic merit alone!

"The letter urges the vice-chancellor to give the matter
his personal attention."

How often dose the minister lend his personal
attention to placing political pressure on the University
to accept politicians imposing a Politically Correct
ideology.. only on behalf of the conservative factions?

"A spokesman for Macquarie University says it is preparing
a response to the Minister and is also preparing an enhanced
policy on academic freedom."

------------

"A US intelligence report has found the Iraq war gave birth to a new
generation of Islamic radicals and the terrorist threat had grown"

"A national intelligence estimate in April said Islamic radicalism
had mushroomed worldwide and the Iraqi War was one reason"
- AFP Reuters 25/9/2006

"We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
and fight to defend our rights and liberties." - Eureka Oath

------------

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fasgnadh · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

tropicus@gmail.com wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>> "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
>>
>> - ABC 30/9/2006
>>
>> The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
>> on Free speech and balance, as his Minister
>> tries to impose tory PC in place of Academic freedom!
>>
>> "Macquarie University has affirmed its commitment to
>> academic freedom, after receiving a letter about course
>> material from the former education minister and now
>> Defence Minister, Brendan Nelson."
>>
>> Poor bastards, the Ministry of Truth will now find
>> some one to financially punish them.. using some other
>> pretext of course, but it will be clear to all why
>> they have been punished - for disobeying their political
>> Masters.
>>
>> "A spokesman for Dr Nelson says he was acting on behalf
>> of a concerned student when he wrote to the university
>> asking for the inclusion of more conservative material
>> on the reading list for a history subject."
>>
>> This is the worst kind of political interference,
>> pressure to choose material because it supports a
>> particular partisan political perspective, rather
>> than on Academic merit alone!
>>
>> "The letter urges the vice-chancellor to give the matter
>> his personal attention."
>>
>> How often dose the minister lend his personal
>> attention to placing political pressure on the University
>> to accept politicians imposing a Politically Correct
>> ideology.. only on behalf of the conservative factions?
>>
>> "A spokesman for Macquarie University says it is preparing
>> a response to the Minister and is also preparing an enhanced
>> policy on academic freedom."
>>
>
> Says the clown who supports racial vilification laws.

Lets see.

Anti-defamation and anti-racist vilification laws
stop ALL liars and racists from lying, defaming or
vilifying people because of their skin colour!

The community CREATES the laws it finds necessary and
if the community doesn't like them, then it can change them.

However

Political interference in free speech by the State pitches
the power of the State against the less powerful citizen victims.

It's not a matter of law, something created by our democratic
parliament and reviewed by our judiciary, it's just one overbearing
Nazi smashing it's boot into the face of freedom.

Naturally a neo-fascist shitpig such as troppo can't tell
the difference, he simply resents any lawful restraint
on his racist hate-speech.

--

------------

"A US intelligence report has found the Iraq war gave birth to a new
generation of Islamic radicals and the terrorist threat had grown"

"A national intelligence estimate in April said Islamic radicalism
had mushroomed worldwide and the Iraqi War was one reason"
- AFP Reuters 25/9/2006

"We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
and fight to defend our rights and liberties." - Eureka Oath

------------

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The true-blue Homestead;

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TonyJB · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTeYaqIe3E

wrote in message @m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> "Minister pressures uni over history reading list"
>>
>> - ABC 30/9/2006
>>
>> The beginning of yet another assault by Howard
>> on Free speech and balance, as his Minister
>> tries to impose tory PC in place of Academic freedom!
>>
>> "Macquarie University has affirmed its commitment to
>> academic freedom, after receiving a letter about course
>> material from the former education minister and now
>> Defence Minister, Brendan Nelson."
>>
>> Poor bastards, the Ministry of Truth will now find
>> some one to financially punish them.. using some other
>> pretext of course, but it will be clear to all why
>> they have been punished - for disobeying their political
>> Masters.
>>
>> "A spokesman for Dr Nelson says he was acting on behalf
>> of a concerned student when he wrote to the university
>> asking for the inclusion of more conservative material
>> on the reading list for a history subject."
>>
>> This is the worst kind of political interference,
>> pressure to choose material because it supports a
>> particular partisan political perspective, rather
>> than on Academic merit alone!
>>
>> "The letter urges the vice-chancellor to give the matter
>> his personal attention."
>>
>> How often dose the minister lend his personal
>> attention to placing political pressure on the University
>> to accept politicians imposing a Politically Correct
>> ideology.. only on behalf of the conservative factions?
>>
>> "A spokesman for Macquarie University says it is preparing
>> a response to the Minister and is also preparing an enhanced
>> policy on academic freedom."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------
>>
>> "A US intelligence report has found the Iraq war gave birth to a new
>> generation of Islamic radicals and the terrorist threat had grown"
>>
>>
>> "A national intelligence estimate in April said Islamic radicalism
>> had mushroomed worldwide and the Iraqi War was one reason"
>> - AFP Reuters 25/9/2006
>>
>>
>> "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
>> and fight to defend our rights and liberties." - Eureka Oath
>>
>> ------------
>>
>> The Official [Est. June 2000] aus.culture.true-blue FAQ ;
>>
>> http://geocities.com/fairdinkum_trueblue/faq.html
>>
>>
>> The true-blue Homestead;
>>
>> http://geocities.com/fairdinkum_trueblue/
>>
>>
>> The true-blue Hall Of Fame;
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/trueblue_hall_of_fame/index.html
>>
>>
>> The Tuckerbox;
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/true_blue_tucker_box/index.html
>>
>>
>> -----------
>
>
> Howard wants a dust-up?
>
> O.k.
>
> If we don't fight they will keep doing this.
>
> Our democracy is not enough. Voting once every 3-4 years is clearly
> insufficient in a world where communications are so connected, where
> issues are so imminent.
>