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Bill



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:22 am    Post subject: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

Hi

Ive been asked to write some Critical Incidents, describe the incident as
clearly as possible. I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas or any examples.

Bill

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Ewan Hackett



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

You are halfway into your introduction of a DT lesson when a child who has
already been removed from your classroom for aggressive behaviour re-enters
your class, brandishing a pen knife. He's walking straight towards you. You
ask someone to fetch help but he's threatened to 'get' anyone who leaves.
What do you do>
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Sue



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

Maintain eye contact with pupil, stay calm, move between him / her and the
class making sure that pupils can leave. Keep talking very quietly and
calmly maintaining eye contact whilst making discreet hand signals for one
to leave and get help. Do NOT try to 'corner' thye pupil, protect others
whilst allowing a bolt hole.

Sue


"Ewan Hackett" wrote in message$0$22356$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
> You are halfway into your introduction of a DT lesson when a child who has
> already been removed from your classroom for aggressive behaviour
re-enters
> your class, brandishing a pen knife. He's walking straight towards you.
You
> ask someone to fetch help but he's threatened to 'get' anyone who leaves.
> What do you do>
>
>
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Nigel Ford



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

"Bill" wrote in message$ZQ.37@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> Hi
>
> Ive been asked to write some Critical Incidents, describe the incident as
> clearly as possible. I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas or any
examples.
>
> Bill
>
>
Is this for a Critical Incidents Policy? If so, keep it vaguish:

injury/death of staff pupils; severe damage to buildings; crash involving
school transport; severe weather; loss of Utility service;

that sort of thing.

Or am I off the mark?

Nigel
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Bill



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

"Nigel Ford" wrote in message$reb$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>
> "Bill" wrote in message
> $ZQ.37@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > Hi
> >
> > Ive been asked to write some Critical Incidents, describe the incident
as
> > clearly as possible. I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas or any
> examples.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> Is this for a Critical Incidents Policy? If so, keep it vaguish:
>
> injury/death of staff pupils; severe damage to buildings; crash involving
> school transport; severe weather; loss of Utility service;
>
> that sort of thing.
>
> Or am I off the mark?
>
> Nigel
>
>

Hi Nigel, I just have to write some Critical Incidents for a course I'm
doing - the tutor was having a problem explaining what one is, I tried to
say to her Critical means more then the average teaching class like when
something goes wrong etc! But she kept on saying any Incident..I think shes
wrong

Bill
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JDT



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

"Bill" wrote in message$eV1.17@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...

> Hi Nigel, I just have to write some Critical Incidents for a course I'm
> doing - the tutor was having a problem explaining what one is, I tried to
> say to her Critical means more then the average teaching class like when
> something goes wrong etc! But she kept on saying any Incident..I think
shes
> wrong
>
> Bill
>

Here are some suggestions from one LEA.

They give this definition of a critical incident.

"An incident might be designated as critical where the result is likely to
be serious disruption
to the running of a school, or where there is likely to be significant
public and/or media
attention on the school."

http://www.thegrid.org.uk/info/healthandsafety/critical-incident.shtml

I believe these examples from the above web site are real incidents which
the LEA has had to deal with in recent times.

* the death of a child at school
* children killed in an accident whilst on a family holiday
* the death of sixth formers in an local accident at lunch time
* the death of a teacher whilst in school
* both pupil and teacher suicides
* major fires, some involving arson
* asbestos contamination
* serious contamination of the water supply
* serious railway accidents
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Rob Kirton



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

"Bill" wrote in message$ZQ.37@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> Hi
>
> Ive been asked to write some Critical Incidents, describe the incident as
> clearly as possible. I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas or any
examples.
>
Bill

Re earlier replies:

I am currently going through the process of training to teach in FE (C&G
7407).

The technique of applying critical incidents to your own learning comes from
a psychologist called Hanagan, with work he did with air crew in WW2. This
has now been adapted as part of teaching training strategy with respect to
reflective practice.

I quote from my course note at Bishop Auckland College :-

"The term critical incident tends to make you think of a negative situation
but Benner (1984) suggests that a range of incidents such as :

- Any event that changes your approach to teaching
- A session in which you feel that your teaching really made adifference to
student learning
- A session which went unusually well
- A session which was not as successful as planned
- A session which was very ordinary / typical
- A session that was particularly demanding"

I think this is what your tutor is trying to get at, as much as some of the
other answers have proved to be illuminating. Ultimately how much you buy
into Benner, reflective practice or modern teaching approaches is down to
you. Personally I often find many of the words used to describe event and
situations, as being ways just to dress up common sense. Though somebody
did once say to me "common sense is often not as common as you may think
...."

all the best

- Rob
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Bill



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

"Rob Kirton" wrote in message$ao6$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>
> "Bill" wrote in message
> $ZQ.37@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > Hi
> >
> > Ive been asked to write some Critical Incidents, describe the incident
as
> > clearly as possible. I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas or any
> examples.
> >
> Bill
>
> Re earlier replies:
>
> I am currently going through the process of training to teach in FE (C&G
> 7407).
>
> The technique of applying critical incidents to your own learning comes
from
> a psychologist called Hanagan, with work he did with air crew in WW2.
This
> has now been adapted as part of teaching training strategy with respect to
> reflective practice.
>
> I quote from my course note at Bishop Auckland College :-
>
> "The term critical incident tends to make you think of a negative
situation
> but Benner (1984) suggests that a range of incidents such as :
>
> - Any event that changes your approach to teaching
> - A session in which you feel that your teaching really made adifference
to
> student learning
> - A session which went unusually well
> - A session which was not as successful as planned
> - A session which was very ordinary / typical
> - A session that was particularly demanding"
>
> I think this is what your tutor is trying to get at, as much as some of
the
> other answers have proved to be illuminating. Ultimately how much you buy
> into Benner, reflective practice or modern teaching approaches is down to
> you. Personally I often find many of the words used to describe event and
> situations, as being ways just to dress up common sense. Though somebody
> did once say to me "common sense is often not as common as you may think
> ..."
>
> all the best
>
> - Rob
>
>
>
>

I think you are spot on Rob.... I see critical and think of a serious
situation.

Bill
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Brendan Murphy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

In message , JDT
writes
>Here are some suggestions from one LEA.
>
>They give this definition of a critical incident.
>
>"An incident might be designated as critical where the result is likely to
>be serious disruption
>to the running of a school, or where there is likely to be significant
>public and/or media
>attention on the school."
>

It would seem your LEA thinks a critical incident is an incident where
they may be open to criticism.

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JDT



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

"Brendan Murphy" wrote in message$Ew1g@obsidiancity.org.uk...
> In message , JDT
> writes
> >Here are some suggestions from one LEA.
> >
> >They give this definition of a critical incident.
> >
> >"An incident might be designated as critical where the result is likely
to
> >be serious disruption
> >to the running of a school, or where there is likely to be significant
> >public and/or media
> >attention on the school."
> >
>
> It would seem your LEA thinks a critical incident is an incident where
> they may be open to criticism.
>
> --
> Brendan

You could be right there!!! They do not deal with criticism very well
(constructive or otherwise)!!!

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Bob Spowart



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

Ewan Hackett wrote in message
...
>You are halfway into your introduction of a DT lesson when a child who has
>already been removed from your classroom for aggressive behaviour re-enters
>your class, brandishing a pen knife. He's walking straight towards you. You
>ask someone to fetch help but he's threatened to 'get' anyone who leaves.
>What do you do>

I'd probably take the same action the I took the last time I was threatened
by a yob with a knife, (not in class I hasten to add), for which I am
eternally thankful to an Army PTI at Chepstow 30 odd years ago!!
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greebs



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

Sheila Very Happy wrote in Another Place...
>
>My school was involved in a fatal coach crash in France years ago.
>
>There is a plan where the teacher in charge just rings the police HQ
>in our LEA and just has to say one word - a password.
>
>In theory, everything then starts happening.
>
>In practice, the copper who answered the phone said, "You what?"

Perhaps "rozzer" wasn't a very good choice of password.
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greebs
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five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't
know where the hell she is. - Ellen DeGeners
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gertie



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

In article , Ewan
Hackett wrote:
> You are halfway into your introduction of a DT lesson when a child
> who has already been removed from your classroom for aggressive
> behaviour re-enters your class, brandishing a pen knife. He's
> walking straight towards you. You ask someone to fetch help but
> he's threatened to 'get' anyone who leaves. What do you do>


What did you do?


[cross-posting snipped]

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Gertie.

Award-winning bog cleaner, agony aunt and now Latin scholar.
Veni, vidi, Vim (I came, I saw, I cleaned)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

Bob Spowart wrote...
>
>Ewan Hackett wrote in message
>...
>>You are halfway into your introduction of a DT lesson when a child who has
>>already been removed from your classroom for aggressive behaviour re-enters
>>your class, brandishing a pen knife. He's walking straight towards you. You
>>ask someone to fetch help but he's threatened to 'get' anyone who leaves.
>>What do you do>
>
>I'd probably take the same action the I took the last time I was threatened
>by a yob with a knife, (not in class I hasten to add), for which I am
>eternally thankful to an Army PTI at Chepstow 30 odd years ago!!
>
Being able to run can have its uses!
--
greebs
I go from stool to stool in singles bars hoping to get lucky,
but there's never any gum under any of them." - Emo Philips
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Bob Spowart



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Critical Incidents Reply with quote

greebs wrote in message ...
>Bob Spowart wrote...
>>
>>Ewan Hackett wrote in message
>>...
>>>You are halfway into your introduction of a DT lesson when a child who
has
>>>already been removed from your classroom for aggressive behaviour
re-enters
>>>your class, brandishing a pen knife. He's walking straight towards you.
You
>>>ask someone to fetch help but he's threatened to 'get' anyone who leaves.
>>>What do you do>
>>
>>I'd probably take the same action the I took the last time I was
threatened
>>by a yob with a knife, (not in class I hasten to add), for which I am
>>eternally thankful to an Army PTI at Chepstow 30 odd years ago!!
>>
>Being able to run can have its uses!
>--
Actually, stupid me stood my ground then, when he did try to slash me,
managed to block the attack, get him in an arm lock, causing him to drop the
knife and suffer a severely dislocated shoulder.
The police were most grateful!!!

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